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1 bestof2worlds evaluation services on Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:12 pm

Well, I had a terrible experience on best of 2 worlds. After posting for several days regarding a website that I have had wonderful results with, they deleted all of my posts. And "banned" myself along with a couple of other posters.
They claimed the reason for this was that we were not legit customers of this site. This is not true. The opinions of bestof2worlds.com is very biased and it turns out that one or 2 people own several websites including bestof2worlds and other sites like it. They use them to promote their own sales!
And here is proof!
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/365/RipOff0365475.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/212/RipOff0212008.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/366/RipOff0366046.htm
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/circle-of-nemue-c143031.html
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/templeatlantiscom-c114754.html
http://www.aisha-haadi.com/index.php?blog=3
http://psyforumsscam.blogspot.com/2007/06/paypal-urges-victims-of-psyforumscom-to.html
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/378/RipOff0378474.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/252/RipOff0252999.htm
http://www.egyptian-witchcraft.com/AishaHaadiBlog/labels/spell%20scams.html
http://www.ancientmagicspells.com/magicscams.html
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/370/RipOff0370051.htm
http://www.mysticboard.com/general_discussion/25496-banner_ads_by_google-2.html
http://www.trhonline.com/cgi-bin/listcomments.pl?id=1221660777
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/179/RipOff0179398.htm

There are TONS of posts and not all of them could be wrong!

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2 bestof2worlds evaluation services cont. on Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:24 pm

And these are links that were found in just a half hour of searching! Imagine what could be found with a bit more work!

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3 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:49 pm

Well I was a legimate client. I commented on sites that I had bad experience with and posted them on best of 2 worlds to let everyone know. I didn't even say I had results yet from my spells. I merely stated that I was trying them out and I had a different vibe from them so far. Best of 2 worlds makes me so mad.

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4 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:00 pm

They want to remove all negative comments about sites they are affiliated with as well as removing positive input about the ones they are not. If it's a true review site let all posts remain. That is a purpose of a review. Not all experiences are going to positive.

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5 Exactly! on Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:37 pm

Once I get through with the spacing, Im going to post our conversation from Bestof2worlds. Ive copied it but it came out in one big paragraph. So this way, if they decide to delete us AGAIN, we will have proof:)

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6 lmao on Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:35 pm

I asked them if they wanted to see the receipt I got from paypal to verify that I am a real customer... no response. xD And now the site seems to be down? Oh noes! We're onto them! lol

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7 I wonder... on Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:17 pm

I bet they didnt want us "advertising" the REAL forums on their fake one LOL

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8 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:19 pm

lmao-- most likely. Oh! I got a chat up on my forum if anyone is interested. I think its hidden from guests, but its not a bad one. It came free with my board. XD

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9 bestof2world posts 12/26/08 on Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:42 pm

anonymous: where can people speak out about thier experiences without getting "banned"?
anonymous: I can understand you being upset because I was upset when they did what they did.
anonymous: well i have more opinions about this all but i will choose to not say it.
Helena: Im just really upset that they are trying to show me in a negative light. I dont feel I was doing anything wrong. And according to Spirited Enterprise, this website has never even attempted to evaluate their services so how the heck would they know if they were an unethical website? Makes me mad
Helena: Spirited Enterprise has helped my situation. Greatly in fact. Ive been a repeat customer now for 10 months and I will be a repeat customer for as long as I feel I need their help.
anonymous: I say try not to work yourself up. I'm sorry that you've had bad experiences. What I say now is to do exactly what you were doing. Let people know what works and what doesn't work.
Helena: I wish I had known then, what I know now because perhaps then, I wouldnt have lost all of my money
Helena: I was taken for a lot of money from a lot of different casters, over half of which are on these rip off lists:(
Helena: are right. Im so frazzled over this that I keep hitting "enter"
Helena: You
anonymous: I've read your posts Helena before they deleted them and not in one way did I feel that you were trying to promote SE. I felt that you were finally happy to have found a caster that seems genuine and finally one that can help with your situation.
anonymous: exactly what I've read
Helena: According to all of the negative reports Ive read, one or 2 people own a ton of websites, including sites like this one that "rate casters"
Helena: That is exactly what is going on here! They want people to buy from their own websites, not the sites that work! anonymous: It makes it seem like they are trying to steer customers away from the "good" sites and maybe steer towards some of the frauds.
anonymous: I don't understand why people can not be open about who ever whether or not they are on the list
anonymous: I've read a few things about this site that weren't so great. Honestly I just come here to see what people's experiences are with whomever they choose to use.
Helena: "banned" why am I still able to post. This is just BS. Im very angry about this whole thing.
Helena: Exactly! And if Ive been
anonymous: I'm glad someone spoke out about this site. There are a lot of complaints about the"editors choice" sites. They say to post experiences about spell casters that may be helpful, but once someone finds a site that seems decent they ban them saying that they are promoting a "unethical site". I thought the whole point of this site was to steer people in the right direction so they won't fall for frauds.
Helena: http://psyforumsscam.blogspot.com/2007/06/paypal-urges-victims-of-psyforumscom-to.html
Helena: http://www.aisha-haadi.com/index.php?blog=3
Helena: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/252/RipOff0252497.htm#238865http://www.aisha-haadi.com/http://aishalovespellsscam.blogspot.com/http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/164/ripoff0164852.htmhttp://www.scamclub.com/reports/Aisha-2836.htmlhttp://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/212/RipOff0212008.htm
Helena: Everything I said in my posts are 100% true and correct. I have contacted Spirited Enterprise, so I suggest everyone go to their website as Mother Moon is in the process of investigating this site and their claims and has already found TONS of fradulent activity surrounding this site and the sites they advertise as editors choice websites.
Helena: That is total and completely false about spiritedenterprise. I am a client!!
mdg: hi mdg: I hired Missy magicksoftworld in Nov. 15th. No results so far. I am disappointed from her. She does answer e-mails with kindness but no results to bring my boyfriend back
wanted: i used fastspells over 3 months ago and have not gotten any results. all the email answers have been generic until the past month and now i get no repsonse at all. do not use anyone who goes by kimberly rose or brittney. i am so disappointed.
purpleq: I am currently using 5 different spell casters to help return my ex lover/partner and so far NO results from anyone. Some of the web sites are interesting and have Terms of Service, offer money back in 6 months but I am not seeing results or being reunited with my ex. I am disappointed when sites say they have a high success rate when they really don't.
jellybean: i am so disappointed about spiritedenterprise! I just read the post by 2 worlds... but it's too late! I ordered 3 spells from them! i really need help - has anyone TRULY had a spell by anyone WORK!! BE HONEST! I have spent way too much money, and I really want this guy back!!! HELP!!!
purpleq: it's a red magick spell, This love spell will affect his subconscious only, not his free will.
purpleq: I tried secretwitchcraft Nov 18th, Eternal Bridge Love spell $449. So far no contact from my ex partner at all.
desperated: purple .. have you seem any result from secretwitchcraft.com? i order a love spell in nov 9 and havent' seem any resultyet?
chick: has any one had possitive resuts with Debrah

THEBESTOF2WORLDS: 3 USERS (Shouko, Helena, dragontrainer) BANNED FOR ACTIVLY PROMOTING A SITE THAT IS NOT ETHICAL (spiritedenterprise.com) DO NOT PURCHASE ANY SERVICES FROM THIS SITE DUE TO FALSE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY "not real" CLIENTS! //THE BEST OF 2 WORLDS TEAM

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10 12/26 posts cont on Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:42 pm

anonymous: you have to click on older messages when u reach the bottom of the posts
kurenai: Only lets you go back so far? Helena: Ok...I wish I would have done that before they deleted all the dang posts anonymous: copy it Helena!
Helena: LOL Yep
kurenai: xD Exactly. Ban us for using this thing as it shows its supposed to be used. lmao
Helena: because you know its going to be deleted and we're all going to be "banned" again LOL
Helena: yeah, that would be awesome
Helena: exactly...wonder if we should copy this whole conversation on one of the forums
kurenai: I'm thinking on getting one of these for my forum, btw. ;3 Its only a CBox. Easy coding. lol
kurenai: Haha. I think thats GREAT of them to assume. Shows just how shady this place is.
Helena: yeah, how would they know if we were real customers or not
kurenai: xD Well, at least with our forums, someone SHOULD be able to get help. =3
kurenai: I thought it odd when they said that I wasn't a real customer. Was like, "What the hell do you want? to see my paypal receipt? I AM a real customer, tyvm.
Helena: this site hasnt been updated in a long time either, other than removing posts about compeditors
Helena: I totally agree. I about freaked out this morning when I read the post on here that said I had been banned and went right to SE with my concern. Mother Moon said that they had emailed BO2W asking what criteria they based their evaluations on and never even heard back from them. I guess this was after I told them that we were posting on here about them and after they had already been notified that this site was into some shady stuff from another client of theirs
kurenai: I say, if this site REALLY reviews anything, they need to review SE and tell us EVERYTHING, rather than make no mention of them on here. (Though, we now know how that will goooo~ lol)
kurenai: =D Amen, Purple! They do make you feel good and like you can approach them with anything. (I once got turned away from a site for being skeptical and wanting to ask a million questions. SE never once seemed irritated at me for this, and willingly answered EVERYTHING I asked to the best of their ability)
purpleq: My outlook with using SE has been more positive and I like how they have treated me as a valued customer. They have a wonderful web site and emails are answered with details. Shame on Bo2w
kurenai: I might have to go soon, so heres my forum again for anyone who may want it. http://mundanereview.proboards.com purpleq: thank you helena
kurenai: =D Thanks hon! I would be honored! =3 (Crediting it to you, though, as you did the work and not me. lol)
Phil: hey i know how you feel, have been through all that despair and depression, not eating, feeling like my world is caving in and then getting ripped off on top of all that!
Helena: Exactly! Kurenai, if you like, you can use the list I posted on spellcastersreview.forumotion.com to back up why this site is listed as one to be wary of. Your site is looking awesome! After I run some errands, I will definitely sign up:)
kurenai: Exactly. I'm like that, as well... I've not eaten since he and I parted.. but, hey, why not take us poor souls for all we have, right?
Phil: its very sad that this site operates the way it does as there are people coming on here who are practically suicidal looking for an answer to their problems and all they get is ripped off
kurenai: Mmm... my forum is starting to shape up! =D
anonymous:
Helena: either one or a small group of people own and operate a huge list of sites where they all promote their own services
Helena: spellcastersreview.forumotion.com - check out my list on this website - according to a lot of people, that is exactly whats going on anonymous: but those few aren't the ones that are editors' choice
anonymous: except for a few of them listed here anonymous: yep
Phil: they are probably all operated by the same person including bo2w
anonymous: Recommended because they get a part of the profit anonymous: who are they linked with? lol
kurenai: Probably who pays most to have them rank so high. lol
Helena: I wonder what the "criteria" list that they talk about on the home page really consists of
Helena: exactly!
anonymous: if they are a review site that test these services how would legitimate sites even get to stand a chance if they are not real people with real issues? anonymous: i guess what i was trying to say was the way the claim they do
Helena: Dear Helena, Bestof2worlds has not nor have they attempted to evaluate our services @ Spirited Enterprise. We have emailed them regarding their post but have not heard anything back from them. The Sisters @ Spirited Enterprise
kurenai: =O
Helena: They dont. Here is a copy of the email of Spirited Enterprise:
anonymous: Honestly, I don't get how this site "review" these other sites
kurenai: lol. Amen to that. Theres NOTHING to buy. I'm even putting a disclaimer on mine showing that unless otherwise noted, me nor my users are not magickally inclined. lol
anonymous: it's not an unethical site because there is nothing to purchase on there lol
anonymous: well at least if they ban me it's going to be because i'm trying to do something good
kurenai: Awesome! Thanks! =3
anonymous: kurenai it's spellcastersreview.forumotion.com
kurenai: http://mundanereview.proboards.com
kurenai: Heres my site. Its under construction, but will have a ton of info on it in the future-- the more people, the more info. ;3
Phil: don't care if they ban me, they have nothing to offer me
kurenai: Careful, Phil. They'll ban you. ><; But, I agree.
Phil: these sites just prey on vulnerable people desperate to get their loved ones back
kurenai: Amen to that. >< I don't like to waste money any more than the next person. lol
anonymous: not a problem. i feel everyone needs to work together so people can stop wasting their time and money
kurenai: Anon, I would be glad to affiliate with you. =3
anonymous: same with my forum
kurenai: I believe I'm seeing results from mine, but at the risk of being banned again, I'm not saying the name. Sorry... I'll put it up on my forum, though. Since there will be few/no bannings there.
Phil: i just want to find a real one that works
kurenai: THANK YOU PHIL. xD You hit the nail on the head. I would find it wise to not mention OTHER sites on here as you'd be banned for advertising them without being a customer.
Phil: hmmm the ones on this site are bollocks anonymous: but....i say research them greatly before anything
kurenai: But, be careful. Always check Rip Off Report for them. (You'll find some of them on there, as we saw earlier) anonymous: that are editors' choice
anonymous: well, phil supposedly the sites that are listed on this review site
kurenai: Well, Phil, we can't anymore. Doing so results in bannings. Sorry. =/
Phil: Can anyone recommend a spellcaster that gives real results?
kurenai: Well, I've not gotten it up yet, but I'll definitely put it here when its going. (Or when I get the thing up a bit, then I'll link you and just have it "Under Construction"-- I'm a neat freak. lol anonymous:
purpleq, I just started one
purpleq: very interested
anonymous: Helena I sent you a message on the site
Helena: whats the link?
kurenai: I'm working on a forum for posting user-reviews on spellcasters if anyone is interested.
Helena: ok
anonymous: i'm trying to work out eveything over here
anonymous: post things that are going to be helpful!
Helena: can i post all of the links ive found about this site and the owners?
anonymous: done!
Helena: awesome...let us know when its up and running
anonymous: spellcastersreview.forumotion.com
anonymous: works for me
Helena: how about spellcastersreview?
anonymous: not name lol. i just need a title
anonymous: I need a title and name for it
Helena: well, i dont think they really "ban" people, because Im "banned" but still typing away
anonymous: i can try lol i may get banned
Helena: that would be awesome! make sure you come back and post the link
anonymous: I'm going to create a forum lol
Helena: thank you very much:) Im very happy in their services
anonymous: I'm happy you found a site that you are happy with. I wish you luck with your situation.
Helena: Maybe Spirited Enterprise will start a page in their forum that we can all talk openly about...Ill email and ask!
anonymous: it amazes me lol.
anonymous: WE just want real sites with real results.
Helena: perhaps they dont want the word S.c.a.m. associated with their site...especially if thats exactly what they are doing!
anonymous: People are preying on others that are vulnerable and would do anything to help their situations.
Helena: Oh yeah, I had that same problem before! I wonder why that is
anonymous: it should say s.c.a.m.m.e.d. anonymous: very true. I still can't get over how my words were changed in my post
Helena: I totally agree. But if these other sites are correct about one or 2 people owning all of these sites, including this one, then of course, they wouldnt actually evaluate OR promote any other sites other than their own
anonymous: it changed again
anonymous: wow
anonymous: mistreated was supposed to say mistreated
anonymous: my words were changed in my post
anonymous: there is already a bunch of confusion when it comes to anything that has to do with purchasing any product or service on the internet. people are tired of getting ripped off/mistreated. especially during these times where the economy is in turmoil. anonymous: And...they should update their list because 1. not all of the recommended sites are ethical and people are complaining about them. 2. some of the sites don't exist anymore and 3.be more honest about all sites.
Helena: right, if they were actually evaluating these sites, that would be the case anonymous: It's definitely not right of them to ban for a site they haven't looked into. I think that instead of banning they would add to their list of "sites to be reviewed".
Helena: I think that Mother Moon is going to address this whole thing on the SE forum but I think they are going to look into it more first
Helena: Im not sure.

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11 Question lol on Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:07 pm

I just realized something on this site. If they are a spell review site, why are they listing sites that sale books to save marriages? What is the connection?

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12 bestof2worlds evaluation services on Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:16 pm

Perhaps they own those as well??

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13 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:19 pm

Possibly. Or maybe they know their editors' choice sites won't work so they attempt to put these other bogus sites to "help save the relationship".

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14 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:56 pm

I've posted topics on the sites that TBO2W claim are editors' choice sites. I want to know who has used them and/or if anyone actually has seen results with any of them. So far, no results and a ton of rip off reports.

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15 OMG RIPOFF on Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:19 pm

I can not believe Best of 2 Worlds banned me because in my post I said people need to make sure they change what they do and think for their spells to truly work because if they don't even if the spells work they wont last long if they are doing the same things they were doing when they lost their loved one in the first place. I even made sure not to post any of the sites that worked for me so that they wouldn't say I was "advertising" but I guess telling people not to get love spells until they work on themselves was not good for their business, what a rip off.

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16 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:11 pm

I think the advice you gave is great. I don't understand why they would ban you for it. Feel free to post about sites you've had success with.

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17 editing comments on Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:50 pm

What Helena said makes sense. Bestof2worlds seem to delete posts about sites they are not affiliated with and keep the 'good' comments about the ones that they are affiliated with.

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18 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:10 pm

yes that's what TBO2W does..That's why the forum was created.

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19 anybody with good sense.... on Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:32 pm

Anybody with good sense would see all the bull that TB2W does and stop going there and find another review site to join but I visited TB2W today and saw the same folks posting comments as if everything is on the up and up, oblivious to the suspicious activity going on. Rolling Eyes

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20 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:10 pm

Its sad, but... if they want to stay there and be scammed in the long run, let them... we can't MAKE them open their eyes. u-u Just gotta help those who will accept it.

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21 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:32 pm

I think it's those so called casters trying to drive people to their sites to keep scamming other people. It's amazing how low they would go.

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22 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:40 pm

Too bad we can't see the IP numbers. >>

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23 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:47 pm

lol true

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24 TBO2W this has me creeped out! on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:20 pm

I received an email from a lady I believe is part of this TBO2W thing. I don't know if this person is genuine and I was wondering if you can verify this for me anonymousgirl.

They go by this name:

Genuinely Real Spells: http://genuinelyrealspells.com

I have been trying for a while now to find someone genuine. This would mean the world to me.

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25 Re: bestof2worlds evaluation services on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:58 pm

why do you feel that they are a part of the TBO2W thing? But sure I think that we can all work together to see if this caster is genuine. I've never heard of this site until your post.

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