anonymous: you have to click on older messages when u reach the bottom of the posts
kurenai: Only lets you go back so far? Helena: Ok...I wish I would have done that before they deleted all the dang posts anonymous: copy it Helena!
Helena: LOL Yep
kurenai: xD Exactly. Ban us for using this thing as it shows its supposed to be used. lmao
Helena: because you know its going to be deleted and we're all going to be "banned" again LOL
Helena: yeah, that would be awesome
Helena: exactly...wonder if we should copy this whole conversation on one of the forums
kurenai: I'm thinking on getting one of these for my forum, btw. ;3 Its only a CBox. Easy coding. lol
kurenai: Haha. I think thats GREAT of them to assume. Shows just how shady this place is.
Helena: yeah, how would they know if we were real customers or not
kurenai: xD Well, at least with our forums, someone SHOULD be able to get help. =3
kurenai: I thought it odd when they said that I wasn't a real customer. Was like, "What the hell do you want? to see my paypal receipt? I AM a real customer, tyvm.
Helena: this site hasnt been updated in a long time either, other than removing posts about compeditors
Helena: I totally agree. I about freaked out this morning when I read the post on here that said I had been banned and went right to SE with my concern. Mother Moon said that they had emailed BO2W asking what criteria they based their evaluations on and never even heard back from them. I guess this was after I told them that we were posting on here about them and after they had already been notified that this site was into some shady stuff from another client of theirs
kurenai: I say, if this site REALLY reviews anything, they need to review SE and tell us EVERYTHING, rather than make no mention of them on here. (Though, we now know how that will goooo~ lol)
kurenai: =D Amen, Purple! They do make you feel good and like you can approach them with anything. (I once got turned away from a site for being skeptical and wanting to ask a million questions. SE never once seemed irritated at me for this, and willingly answered EVERYTHING I asked to the best of their ability)
purpleq: My outlook with using SE has been more positive and I like how they have treated me as a valued customer. They have a wonderful web site and emails are answered with details. Shame on Bo2w
kurenai: I might have to go soon, so heres my forum again for anyone who may want it. http://mundanereview.proboards.com purpleq: thank you helena
kurenai: =D Thanks hon! I would be honored! =3 (Crediting it to you, though, as you did the work and not me. lol)
Phil: hey i know how you feel, have been through all that despair and depression, not eating, feeling like my world is caving in and then getting ripped off on top of all that!
Helena: Exactly! Kurenai, if you like, you can use the list I posted on spellcastersreview.forumotion.com to back up why this site is listed as one to be wary of. Your site is looking awesome! After I run some errands, I will definitely sign up:)
kurenai: Exactly. I'm like that, as well... I've not eaten since he and I parted.. but, hey, why not take us poor souls for all we have, right?
Phil: its very sad that this site operates the way it does as there are people coming on here who are practically suicidal looking for an answer to their problems and all they get is ripped off
kurenai: Mmm... my forum is starting to shape up! =D
Helena: either one or a small group of people own and operate a huge list of sites where they all promote their own services
Helena: spellcastersreview.forumotion.com - check out my list on this website - according to a lot of people, that is exactly whats going on anonymous: but those few aren't the ones that are editors' choice
anonymous: except for a few of them listed here anonymous: yep
Phil: they are probably all operated by the same person including bo2w
anonymous: Recommended because they get a part of the profit anonymous: who are they linked with? lol
kurenai: Probably who pays most to have them rank so high. lol
Helena: I wonder what the "criteria" list that they talk about on the home page really consists of
anonymous: if they are a review site that test these services how would legitimate sites even get to stand a chance if they are not real people with real issues? anonymous: i guess what i was trying to say was the way the claim they do
Helena: Dear Helena, Bestof2worlds has not nor have they attempted to evaluate our services @ Spirited Enterprise. We have emailed them regarding their post but have not heard anything back from them. The Sisters @ Spirited Enterprise
Helena: They dont. Here is a copy of the email of Spirited Enterprise:
anonymous: Honestly, I don't get how this site "review" these other sites
kurenai: lol. Amen to that. Theres NOTHING to buy. I'm even putting a disclaimer on mine showing that unless otherwise noted, me nor my users are not magickally inclined. lol
anonymous: it's not an unethical site because there is nothing to purchase on there lol
anonymous: well at least if they ban me it's going to be because i'm trying to do something good
kurenai: Awesome! Thanks! =3
anonymous: kurenai it's spellcastersreview.forumotion.com
kurenai: Heres my site. Its under construction, but will have a ton of info on it in the future-- the more people, the more info. ;3
Phil: don't care if they ban me, they have nothing to offer me
kurenai: Careful, Phil. They'll ban you. ><; But, I agree.
Phil: these sites just prey on vulnerable people desperate to get their loved ones back
kurenai: Amen to that. >< I don't like to waste money any more than the next person. lol
anonymous: not a problem. i feel everyone needs to work together so people can stop wasting their time and money
kurenai: Anon, I would be glad to affiliate with you. =3
anonymous: same with my forum
kurenai: I believe I'm seeing results from mine, but at the risk of being banned again, I'm not saying the name. Sorry... I'll put it up on my forum, though. Since there will be few/no bannings there.
Phil: i just want to find a real one that works
kurenai: THANK YOU PHIL. xD You hit the nail on the head. I would find it wise to not mention OTHER sites on here as you'd be banned for advertising them without being a customer.
Phil: hmmm the ones on this site are bollocks anonymous: but....i say research them greatly before anything
kurenai: But, be careful. Always check Rip Off Report for them. (You'll find some of them on there, as we saw earlier) anonymous: that are editors' choice
anonymous: well, phil supposedly the sites that are listed on this review site
kurenai: Well, Phil, we can't anymore. Doing so results in bannings. Sorry. =/
Phil: Can anyone recommend a spellcaster that gives real results?
kurenai: Well, I've not gotten it up yet, but I'll definitely put it here when its going. (Or when I get the thing up a bit, then I'll link you and just have it "Under Construction"-- I'm a neat freak. lol anonymous:
purpleq, I just started one
purpleq: very interested
anonymous: Helena I sent you a message on the site
Helena: whats the link?
kurenai: I'm working on a forum for posting user-reviews on spellcasters if anyone is interested.
anonymous: i'm trying to work out eveything over here
anonymous: post things that are going to be helpful!
Helena: can i post all of the links ive found about this site and the owners?
Helena: awesome...let us know when its up and running
anonymous: works for me
Helena: how about spellcastersreview?
anonymous: not name lol. i just need a title
anonymous: I need a title and name for it
Helena: well, i dont think they really "ban" people, because Im "banned" but still typing away
anonymous: i can try lol i may get banned
Helena: that would be awesome! make sure you come back and post the link
anonymous: I'm going to create a forum lol
Helena: thank you very much:) Im very happy in their services
anonymous: I'm happy you found a site that you are happy with. I wish you luck with your situation.
Helena: Maybe Spirited Enterprise will start a page in their forum that we can all talk openly about...Ill email and ask!
anonymous: it amazes me lol.
anonymous: WE just want real sites with real results.
Helena: perhaps they dont want the word S.c.a.m. associated with their site...especially if thats exactly what they are doing!
anonymous: People are preying on others that are vulnerable and would do anything to help their situations.
Helena: Oh yeah, I had that same problem before! I wonder why that is
anonymous: it should say s.c.a.m.m.e.d. anonymous: very true. I still can't get over how my words were changed in my post
Helena: I totally agree. But if these other sites are correct about one or 2 people owning all of these sites, including this one, then of course, they wouldnt actually evaluate OR promote any other sites other than their own
anonymous: it changed again
anonymous: mistreated was supposed to say mistreated
anonymous: my words were changed in my post
anonymous: there is already a bunch of confusion when it comes to anything that has to do with purchasing any product or service on the internet. people are tired of getting ripped off/mistreated. especially during these times where the economy is in turmoil. anonymous: And...they should update their list because 1. not all of the recommended sites are ethical and people are complaining about them. 2. some of the sites don't exist anymore and 3.be more honest about all sites.
Helena: right, if they were actually evaluating these sites, that would be the case anonymous: It's definitely not right of them to ban for a site they haven't looked into. I think that instead of banning they would add to their list of "sites to be reviewed".
Helena: I think that Mother Moon is going to address this whole thing on the SE forum but I think they are going to look into it more first
Helena: Im not sure.